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PostSubject: Retrace 67   Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:23 pm

Spoilers and raws out at LiveJournal! We might have to wait for translations, though...

-will have to wait 'til a next poster for some spoilery discuss-
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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:48 pm

Wow. Well, looking at the Mangafox translations -

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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:11 pm

The blond Glen creeps me out. Imma say that right now. There's something off about him. And what does he want with Jack???

Looks like Lacie knows she'll die soon. Golden Abyss lights already around her body. Hmm. Really interesting comment by Glen that Lacie can see reality without confusion. (And her still thinking Jack is adorable inside. <3)

Jack is, of course, adorable. He acts like he doesn't care that Lacie doesn't remember him, even says that he's happy that her flighty ways have not changed. He just accepts Lacie treating him that way without question; the tendency of accepting things as they are, due to low self-esteem and himself not really mattering, like Oz does. He doesn't even care if he dies as long as he gets to see Lacie again. But when she does remember him and shows caring, he breaks down crying, showing how much it really means to him. Him seeing all those unnamed hands reaching for him when Lacie touched his head is so nauseating and sympathetic at the same time. His perception of intimacy must be so screwed up by now. *hugs Jack >.<*

And Jack is like water again. Love it. Another parallel with Oz again in there being something fundamentally weird about him, and him not being all there. Wonder who else Jack heard this from that he's so affected by Gle-err-Ozwald saying it. (Ozwald: "You're like water." Jack: *splashes water on Ozwald* XD)

Ozwald seems similar to Gil in his quiet guardian ways, although significantly more perceptive. I guess the previous Glen having the next anticipated Glen as his servant is common procedure. And of course I LOVE the yaoi hints between Ozwald and Jack!! And DAMN he's pretty!!

Grrrr. Miranda is reminding me of Ciel's aunt in Kuroshitsuji. BEGONE ICKY COMPARISON!!! >.< Doesn't seem like Jack likes her much, though, just owes her for whatever help she gave him. Wonder what happened between her and Ozwald. At least if she wanted Glen's head, I could see that for political reasons, but Ozwald?


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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:54 pm

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And I hate it that we'll have to wait for another month to know more ;_____; Such torturous wait....
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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Fri Nov 18, 2011 9:50 pm

@Leo: Yeah, that was definitely a blush, although I'm not sure why. I'd love to put it into my Jack/Glen yaoi file, and I do, but I think it's also something else. It's like Ozwald saw through something about him. It's weird to say it that way, since the "water" explanation said that Jack is unreadable, but it says something about Jack that not many people can see, just like when Break said it to Oz, and it made Jack embarrassed or uncomfortable that Ozwald could notice that. Ozwald wasn't falling for his happy act of everything being okay. It might also have something to do with Jack not knowing his place in the world, like Oz, and he doesn't like being reminded of that... let alone being reminded of it in a way that implies there's something fundamentally wrong with him, which is something he's probably been struggling with his whole life (like Oz).


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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:14 am

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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:30 am

Akkie wrote:
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Oooh, awesome insight! Hope that's true. :3

This chapter makes me add Miranda into my list of who might've been controlling Jack (or not) during Sablier tragedy. And she was at the mansion, too. Could've helped Jack fight Glen maybe.

Also, there's a parallel between the "water" scene with Jack and Ozwald, and the time with Break and Oz. Oz was drinking something and acting like nothing's wrong (as was Jack), Break called Oz weird and not all there (as did Ozwald), Oz was shaken by it (as was Jack), then Alice stepped in to defend Oz and said that he's right here (and Lacie pulled Jack out of the room and said that she can see him and that he's still a nice person).

And what's up with blond Glen's bandaged hands/neck??


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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:41 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Sat Nov 19, 2011 1:58 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:05 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:10 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:11 pm

@Leo Thank-you Smile I was wondering, would it be possible for one of you to post the link to the raws? I had it before and can't seem to find it again >.<
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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:16 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:17 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:23 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Sat Nov 19, 2011 9:21 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Sun Nov 20, 2011 6:08 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:08 pm

Let me just say (FINALLY)...

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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Tue Nov 22, 2011 2:15 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:17 pm

I..haven't been here for quite a while. =w=;;;;

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Well, I enjoyed this chapter although it's another "torturous wait" as I would quote Leo XDD

The Fallen Syndicate release might be in the next 3-6 hours if I can predict. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:55 pm

for some odd reason i have a feeling jack is oz's real father O.O

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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:59 pm

Lily Baskerville wrote:
The Fallen Syndicate release might be in the next 3-6 hours if I can predict. Wink

Yep, it's out. We finally managed to get HQ Raws, so if anyone wants to check the site or forum, all yours.


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Er, Lacie had been dead for ages by the time Jack actually went after Glen.
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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:45 am

So does that mean....

...it was how many years passed before Jack actually knew that Lacie died oAo
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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:17 am

No, Jack always knew that Lacie died. During Sablier tragedy (which is when Jack slashed Gil) he was confronting Ozwald-Glen for fear of what he wanted to do to Alice.
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PostSubject: Re: Retrace 67   Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:28 am

I wanna say sometiiiiing!!! >Very Happy

This chapter was really interesting.
We got to see a new charcter named "Glen"...
Man, now talking about them is gonna be confusing.
Zwei's already giving me trouble.
Bleuugh. Razz

WHY does Lacie have to die?!

that and why is creepy Barma Lady obsessed with Glen;s head?
omg, I betcha her chain is Demios.
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